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Re: Mike's 64 Beetle

Postby ObnoxiousBlue » Wed Dec 01, 2021 7:39 pm

Glenn wrote:
ObnoxiousBlue wrote:
Glenn wrote:Glad you finally finished a Beetle.


:lol:

Anyone seen a blue super around?

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Ouch. That hurts.
I wonder where my car is now. Lol
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Re: Mike's 64 Beetle

Postby Raj » Thu Dec 02, 2021 4:34 pm

So didn't Joe sell it locally in queens? You should reach out to him and ask.
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Re: Mike's 64 Beetle

Postby EDNCAROL » Thu Dec 02, 2021 5:07 pm

Here we go again. :roll:
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Re: Mike's 64 Beetle

Postby ObnoxiousBlue » Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:01 pm

Looking for some pointers.

I am removing my pedal cluster from my 64 bug. Sending it out for a rebuild, as its kinda overdue.

I pulled the rear drivers wheel off for access to the clutch cable, and removed the nut holding it in place. I also disconnected the accelerator cable from the carb and made sure it could go through the bowden tube easily. Then, I put the rear wheel back on and put my bug back on the ground.

I moved forward flipped the floor mats over to the other side for easy access to the cluster. I removed the 2 bolts holding the pedal assembly to the tunnel, then disconnected the accelerator cable from the Z bar, and removed the pin to pull the accelerator pedal off of the floor bracket.

Now, I am trying to understand how to remove the assembly from the brake pushrod. There is a nut there, do I turn that nut, or the "cage"?
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Re: Mike's 64 Beetle

Postby Glenn » Tue Dec 14, 2021 7:55 pm

Its out.
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Re: Mike's 64 Beetle

Postby ObnoxiousBlue » Tue Dec 14, 2021 8:22 pm

Glenn wrote:Its out.


Uh. Yah. Since 2002…

Oh, you meant the cluster!
Yah. That’s out too.
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Re: Mike's 64 Beetle

Postby Raj » Wed Dec 15, 2021 8:36 am

Mike... I think I noticed this when your car was over. I forget, but pls check this while your under there. Are you missing the ' bowden tube' equivalent on your throttle cable? It should have some sheathing at the rear of the car as it exits the tunnel and heads towards the engine. I feel like your is missing. Not a huge deal, but might as well correct it since your in there.
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Re: Mike's 64 Beetle

Postby ObnoxiousBlue » Wed Dec 15, 2021 10:53 am

It was corrected. The tube is there, and I have a hose clamp on the back side to keep it from sliding forward.
Thanks for watching out!
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Re: Mike's 64 Beetle

Postby Raj » Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:41 pm

Anytime!
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Re: Mike's 64 Beetle

Postby ObnoxiousBlue » Wed Dec 15, 2021 8:28 pm

Took the pedal cluster out last night. It wasn’t too bad, but definitely made me phone-a-friend and take to YouTube for some pointers. My garage is narrow, so the night started off with me getting the car in a bit of an angle so I could get some space between the bug and the wall. Removed the rear wheel and got the clutch cable disconnected, then moved to the accelerator cable. With both free, I put the rear wheel back on and set the car back on the floor.
I got the two bolts holding the cluster to the tunnel off. They were snug, I’ll probably chase those threads. I couldn’t figure out how to get the push rod out from the rubber grommet, with the rod in place I couldn’t rotate the cluster out from the hole in the tunnel. Turns out, there is a metal tab that folds over the pin and the pin just sits in place to hold the rod in. Once that was done, the rest came out easy. I wanted to remove the clutch cable because the bowden tube has some light cracks and the start of dry rot, but the cable doesn’t quite want to fit through. I assume it’s just gunked up and will need some persuasion. I left that for another day because either way, the car isn’t able to move right now.
Cluster went off to PedalWerks today for a rebuild. Staying with my cluster, but he’s going to strip it down, powdercoat the arms (not going for the wider clutch arm) is adding a bushing to the accelerator pedal and installing a FastFab pedal and return. As well as upgrading the clutch cable hook. Mine was really worn down, there was about 3/16” of metal left before the book came loose. Will clean up the floor, paint it to seal it up, and post photos when it goes back together.
Looking forward to the pedal feeling solid and not squeaky.
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Re: Mike's 64 Beetle

Postby Glenn » Wed Dec 15, 2021 8:45 pm

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Re: Mike's 64 Beetle

Postby ObnoxiousBlue » Wed Dec 15, 2021 10:52 pm

Mine wasn’t that bad of course, but it was well on its way, and really surprising how much of the metal had eroded compared to how thick it should have been.
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Re: Mike's 64 Beetle

Postby Raj » Thu Dec 16, 2021 9:27 am

ObnoxiousBlue wrote:Mine wasn’t that bad of course, but it was well on its way, and really surprising how much of the metal had eroded compared to how thick it should have been.



Yeah.. its nuts right? Generally one never knows its so badly worn until it fails. And at that points, you can only home your close to home or in 4th on the highway! Good move on the pedal clean up over the winter break
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Re: Mike's 64 Beetle

Postby Glenn » Thu Dec 16, 2021 9:35 am

Raj wrote:
ObnoxiousBlue wrote:Mine wasn’t that bad of course, but it was well on its way, and really surprising how much of the metal had eroded compared to how thick it should have been.



Yeah.. its nuts right? Generally one never knows its so badly worn until it fails. And at that points, you can only home your close to home or in 4th on the highway! Good move on the pedal clean up over the winter break

Come on Raj, we've all driven with no clutch.. it's not that hard.
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Re: Mike's 64 Beetle

Postby EDNCAROL » Sun Dec 19, 2021 4:36 pm

But have you ever driven across the G/W bridge with no brakes ?
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Re: Mike's 64 Beetle

Postby ObnoxiousBlue » Sat Dec 25, 2021 4:59 pm

Earlier this year when the bug was at Gerhards Automotive in Huntington for the timing gear issue, Hans mentioned I had a small tear in my axle boot.
I’m wanting to address this before I take the car to Florida in the spring.
Foremost, what’s involved on a car like mine?
Second, if I need axles where is the best place to get rebuilt axles?
I’m not really wanting new aftermarket garbage.
Is there a “Glenn Ring” of the axle world?
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Re: Mike's 64 Beetle

Postby Glenn » Sat Dec 25, 2021 8:24 pm

ObnoxiousBlue wrote:Earlier this year when the bug was at Gerhards Automotive in Huntington for the timing gear issue, Hans mentioned I had a small tear in my axle boot.
I’m wanting to address this before I take the car to Florida in the spring.
Foremost, what’s involved on a car like mine?
Second, if I need axles where is the best place to get rebuilt axles?
I’m not really wanting new aftermarket garbage.
Is there a “Glenn Ring” of the axle world?

I would call both Manny and Raj as they've most likely dealt with axle issues more than anyone else here.
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Re: Mike's 64 Beetle

Postby Raj » Sun Dec 26, 2021 10:42 am

ObnoxiousBlue wrote:Earlier this year when the bug was at Gerhards Automotive in Huntington for the timing gear issue, Hans mentioned I had a small tear in my axle boot.
I’m wanting to address this before I take the car to Florida in the spring.
Foremost, what’s involved on a car like mine?
Second, if I need axles where is the best place to get rebuilt axles?
I’m not really wanting new aftermarket garbage.
Is there a “Glenn Ring” of the axle world?



Not much to rebuilt.... the Axel is nothing like a IRS with wearable CV"s. Its solid metal thats strong as hell... hence why the baja and drag racers love SA. If you are doing a split boot, not a huge job, just need to play w those little screws and clock the sean correctly ( check the samba). Dont put the seam up top as most would assume. For a seemless boot, I think you need to pull of the entire brake assy and its more involved.
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Re: Mike's 64 Beetle

Postby Glenn » Sun Dec 26, 2021 11:22 am

Raj wrote:
ObnoxiousBlue wrote:If you are doing a split boot, not a huge job, just need to play w those little screws and clock the sean correctly ( check the samba). Dont put the seam up top as most would assume.


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Re: Mike's 64 Beetle

Postby ObnoxiousBlue » Sun Dec 26, 2021 1:04 pm

This is why I love you guys - and why I’m glad to be tinkering again.

Am I “cheating” to use the split boots? Like is that a temporary fix and I should just “do it right” the first time?
Other than the boot installation (thanks Glenn) what else should I be doing while I’m in there?

The instructions above seem to say the seam should be between 10 and 2, vertical, and horizontal- all while three images show starkly different things. One image is straight back, one is pointing to the nut at 2 o’clock, and one illustration shows straight up.
Which is it? Lol
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Re: Mike's 64 Beetle

Postby BradleyVW » Tue Dec 28, 2021 8:13 am

If I remember correctly, that’s what’s on there! They were on long before I bought the bug. So if they’re temporary, they last at least 25 years.
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Re: Mike's 64 Beetle

Postby ObnoxiousBlue » Tue Dec 28, 2021 3:33 pm

BradleyVW wrote:If I remember correctly, that’s what’s on there! They were on long before I bought the bug. So if they’re temporary, they last at least 25 years.


Next time, please buy a car with higher quality parts. I expect better on my vehicles. :lol:
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