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Re: 74 Beetle

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 11:43 am
by mannys66
Glenn A wrote:Have you done any reading about powder coat and loose lug nuts? I've read that powder coat needs to be removed where the lug studs seat. The coating cracks under the seating surface and causes the lugs to become loose.
Are you kidding ? Glenn Ring wrote the book of the adverse effect of powder coating rims and loose lug botls.

Re: 74 Beetle

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 12:15 pm
by Brown
mannys66 wrote:
Glenn A wrote:Have you done any reading about powder coat and loose lug nuts? I've read that powder coat needs to be removed where the lug studs seat. The coating cracks under the seating surface and causes the lugs to become loose.
Are you kidding ? Glenn Ring wrote the book of the adverse effect of powder painting rims and loose lug botls.
Fixed it for you!!

Re: 74 Beetle

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 12:27 pm
by Glenn
I've never had a problem in the past.

Re: 74 Beetle

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 12:30 pm
by Raj
Brown wrote:
mannys66 wrote:
Glenn A wrote:Have you done any reading about powder coat and loose lug nuts? I've read that powder coat needs to be removed where the lug studs seat. The coating cracks under the seating surface and causes the lugs to become loose.
Are you kidding ? Glenn Ring wrote the book of the adverse effect of powder painting rims and loose lug botls.
Fixed it for you!!

lol

Re: 74 Beetle

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 2:48 pm
by Brown
Glenn wrote:I've never had a problem in the past.
I'll bet you have had plenty of problems in the past!!! ;) ;)

Re: 74 Beetle

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 4:52 pm
by franksmarket
yea , glenn a . i read that also on a samba thread... strange...

Re: 74 Beetle

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 5:50 pm
by Glenn
franksmarket wrote:yea , glenn a . i read that also on a samba thread... strange...
What.. that I had plenty of problems int he past? ;)

Re: 74 Beetle

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 6:39 pm
by B MAN
i wish my problems would move to the "past" already :oops:

Re: 74 Beetle

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 7:02 pm
by ObnoxiousBlue
Kevin, call over to Gene at Volksworld, he has literally DOZENS of engines sitting on shelves lining his garage. I had spoken to him a few months back with prospect on one, of a few he said were good, for my 71. That obviously never materialized.

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Re: 74 Beetle

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:28 pm
by BusBq Bill
I had my wheels powdercoated 2 years ago on BUSBQ BUS and i had a wheel come loose.. the bolts were all tight then i retourqed them a month later .. two months after that i left a bus bbq and bus drove like it had a square tire in the back.. sounded like nuts and bolts.. got out could see nothing felt so wierd. so i figured i would nurse it home until i drove a mile further and saw my hubcap fly off from the lug bolts rolling around in the hubcap.. destroyed the steel wheel. put the spare on and robbed 1 bolt from ever other wheel to get me home.. when i got the new used wheel i had it powdercoated again but i had the guy mask it off.. the other three wheels i took a wire wheel and got rid of the powdercoat around the lug seats.. has been fine since.. I saw the warnings on the samba too before i had the wheels powder coated and laughed. but it happened to me.. Learn from my mistake.. :)

Re: 74 Beetle

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:27 pm
by Glenn
I'll most likely scuff the surface where the lug bolts match up. A scotch bright pad is all that's needed.

Re: 74 Beetle

Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 4:29 am
by Glenn A
Glenn wrote: A scotch bright pad is all that's needed.
It's not about the lug gripping or not causing it to loosen. It is that the powder coat cracks under the stress. Once the coating is gone the lug is now loose.

Or maybe it only happens in the winter, in which case you'll be fine.

Re: 74 Beetle

Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 7:27 am
by Glenn
Glenn A wrote:
Glenn wrote: A scotch bright pad is all that's needed.
It's not about the lug gripping or not causing it to loosen. It is that the powder coat cracks under the stress. Once the coating is gone the lug is now loose.
Either way the scotch bright will fix it.

Re: 74 Beetle

Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 8:11 pm
by BusBq Bill
I agree with you Glenn A... Mine Happened in the summer.. I gave my advice.. I say no more.. The powder coater laughed at me too when i told him to mask it the first time.. he said it wouldnt be a problem.. I thought it was rediculous too at one point. but i learned..

Re: 74 Beetle

Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 9:00 pm
by Glenn
Spoke to the powder painter and he'll mask off the seating surface.

Easy as pie.

Re: 74 Beetle

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:28 pm
by Glenn
New tire and fresh painted rims.

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It started right up after sitting since December.

Re: 74 Beetle

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:30 pm
by mannys66
you happy with the rims now budd?

Re: 74 Beetle

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:33 pm
by Raj
Nice GR.

What a PITA that was

Re: 74 Beetle

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:41 pm
by Glenn
Tell me....

The first powder painted kept "fixing" the problems and they wound up with 5 layers of paint. It was a bitch to get off but John @ Action Power Painting got the job done.


Action Powder Painting
105 Verdi Street
Farmingdale, NY 11735-6339
(631) 845-1949


Ask for John

Re: 74 Beetle

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:09 pm
by Glenn A
Looks real nice. Are you happy with the tire choice?

Re: 74 Beetle

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:17 pm
by Glenn
I like the size, but only put 4 miles on so far. I have to give them a few hundred miles to break in and then I hope they don't spin as easily as my old ones.

My old tires are 195/60-15 all around and the fronts would rub when I hit dips in the road at highway speeds. The new tores are 195/55-15 and are a bit shorter. The rears are 205/60-15 and are a little wider and taller.

Re: 74 Beetle

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 4:31 pm
by 67SAMBA
Nice, Congrats, they look great!

Re: 74 Beetle

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:07 pm
by BusBq Bill
Looks Great!

Re: 74 Beetle

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:41 pm
by B MAN
i like!!

Re: 74 Beetle

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:21 pm
by Big_kid
Looks good!