Home away from Home, on wheels.
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Re: Home away from Home, on wheels.
I'm sure I could. The issue though Tom is since the motor ran in the bus, and the fuel pump engages but doesn't pump, my inclination based on a cursory reading, is that the points in the motor fire for the purpose of providing power to the pump. As the points close, it sends power to the pump which engages and squirts fuel, the points open and the power goes away the pump stops pumping. Since the pump works when I put power to it, and it does have a good fuel supply... I'm going with the points inside are bad.
There's a guy on TS who rebuilds these, he' the Glenn Ring of Eberspacher's. We've been talking, and he's been VERY patient with me and we were on the phone several times today as he talked me through this thing. We last left off with checking the thermostat cable, which is now moving freely. But that only half eradicates the issue with the pump/points. He can replace the points for $175, plus service my pump and insured shipping both ways. So by the time I'm through, I'm in ~$270 without any of the tuneup parts.
Since my system looks otherwise in good shape. I might just buy the rebuilt heater from him, as opposed to replacing the whole system as I originally planned.
There's a guy on TS who rebuilds these, he' the Glenn Ring of Eberspacher's. We've been talking, and he's been VERY patient with me and we were on the phone several times today as he talked me through this thing. We last left off with checking the thermostat cable, which is now moving freely. But that only half eradicates the issue with the pump/points. He can replace the points for $175, plus service my pump and insured shipping both ways. So by the time I'm through, I'm in ~$270 without any of the tuneup parts.
Since my system looks otherwise in good shape. I might just buy the rebuilt heater from him, as opposed to replacing the whole system as I originally planned.
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Great... another asshole.ObnoxiousBlue wrote:There's a guy on TS who rebuilds these, he' the Glenn Ring of Eberspacher's.
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#toolGlenn wrote: Great... another stanley.
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I meant to sat a$$hole
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Just spoke to Marty. He's prepping the new heater. He likes to let them run for a day before he sends it out. I'm sending out my fuel pump to him tomorrow, by 2nd Day delivery, he is going to set the fuel pump's output.
I'm excited about having the ability to have heat soon. But more, in my recent project to replace all the fuel lines I found that the heater was in bad condition. It runs, and looks good. But it was a bit scary. I decided I either had to repair this, or rip it all out. Since its tied into ALOT of the bus, and missing duct work would leave holes in the body and cabinetry. I thought it time to make the move.
I'm glad it's coming from someone who's got good feedback from chatter in talking to people on TS. It gives a bit of comfort that its not going to be a fire hazard. I'm happy it will have all new sensors, and relays. So we should be in good shape.
I'm excited about having the ability to have heat soon. But more, in my recent project to replace all the fuel lines I found that the heater was in bad condition. It runs, and looks good. But it was a bit scary. I decided I either had to repair this, or rip it all out. Since its tied into ALOT of the bus, and missing duct work would leave holes in the body and cabinetry. I thought it time to make the move.
I'm glad it's coming from someone who's got good feedback from chatter in talking to people on TS. It gives a bit of comfort that its not going to be a fire hazard. I'm happy it will have all new sensors, and relays. So we should be in good shape.
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I have the same heater and you're welcome to try mine to see if it works.
I'm not an air cooled snob , I like them all !
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The new heater for the bus. It's still in Colorado. I had to mail him my fuel metering pump to calibrate for the heater so it doesn't burn out the glow plug or the spark plug. Hoping to have it here for next weekend, so I can replace all my fuel lines. All probably do the plugs wires and filters while its all there. It hasn't been done in like 2-3 years so its a simple job to add on. Was hoping to do the filler neck at the same time, but it's still on back order from German Supply.


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My fuel line kit came with the factory style crimp-clamps. they make me a bit nervous because theres no real "tactile confirmation" that theyve created a good seal. I did a bit of reading on TS, and called up Steve at ultimate garage. He is checking the sizes I need and I'm going to order the ABA clamps today. I don't want to worry about these crimp on style ones not sealing good. I can't run the car either way until the heater shows up later this week. So I may as well wait on doing the lines until the better/safer clamps are here. I wanted to do the fuel lines today, but oh well. Poor planning on my part.
The tank is full... If anyone needs fuel come get it! I gotta drain the tank anyway! Lol
The tank is full... If anyone needs fuel come get it! I gotta drain the tank anyway! Lol
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Mike,
I purchased 2 style of clamps. One by Wurth was a worm style but the band is not perforated which causes the fabric cover to cut. It also has rolled edge, again to prevent cutting and is stainless. The other is the ABA clamp which is a band style. It also has rolled edges and is stainless.
I went with the ABA.


Steve @ Ultimate Garage is located in Paramus which is a 10 minute drive from my office. He is extremely anal and obsessive about what he does.
I purchased 2 style of clamps. One by Wurth was a worm style but the band is not perforated which causes the fabric cover to cut. It also has rolled edge, again to prevent cutting and is stainless. The other is the ABA clamp which is a band style. It also has rolled edges and is stainless.
I went with the ABA.


Steve @ Ultimate Garage is located in Paramus which is a 10 minute drive from my office. He is extremely anal and obsessive about what he does.
Glenn
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Thanks Glenn, I saw your image in this thread on the samba. I figured you'd done you're research, and ordered a large assortment of clamps on his website this afternoon. I bought a few more than I need, and for the 15.5mm clamps (supplied with my kit) I ordered 15mm, and 16mm so I have the option for a good fit.
I thought these would be better for my project than the crimp on ones. Since the bus travels ALOT with me, if it needed a roadside repair, I didn't want to have to worry about the crimp ons. Plus, with a 100 point restoration clamp style is probably important. For a nice driver that gets used, repair ability and confidence in the clamp was paramount.
I was going to farm this all off to GT. But, once I started looking into the heater issues one thing lead to another and now the engine is all disconnected and lowered down a few inches so I can reach everything.
It would cost me more to have someone reassemble my mess than me just put it back together. LOL
The clamps ship tomorrow for delivery Tuesday. The heater, fuel pump, and its lines are shipping tomorrow morning also. UPS promises delivery within 5 days so I'll have it by Friday. Monday will be the big assembly day. Seeing as Sunday is already earmarked for the Beetle.
I thought these would be better for my project than the crimp on ones. Since the bus travels ALOT with me, if it needed a roadside repair, I didn't want to have to worry about the crimp ons. Plus, with a 100 point restoration clamp style is probably important. For a nice driver that gets used, repair ability and confidence in the clamp was paramount.
I was going to farm this all off to GT. But, once I started looking into the heater issues one thing lead to another and now the engine is all disconnected and lowered down a few inches so I can reach everything.
It would cost me more to have someone reassemble my mess than me just put it back together. LOL
The clamps ship tomorrow for delivery Tuesday. The heater, fuel pump, and its lines are shipping tomorrow morning also. UPS promises delivery within 5 days so I'll have it by Friday. Monday will be the big assembly day. Seeing as Sunday is already earmarked for the Beetle.
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Kudos mike, for handling it yourself. Nothing like the self of accomplishment in doing it on your own. Looks like a fun little project! I've dappled in the gas heater as they come factory on the 73 thing.... I'll chime in where I can
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The bus, sitting lame like some piece of lawn art...


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Anxiety is setting in. I miss having my car. Have a loaner from a friend until my bus is back together... Where's my shit?!
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My ABA clamps showed up today. Hoping to do the fuel lines tomorrow. Might have to go to work for a bit though...
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I seem to have opened a can of worms. Was draining the fuel from the tank this morning and noticed my heat exchangers are gone. I mean, they're there... But it's a surprise they're still hanging on the side of the engine.
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I looked at the ones in my shed- they're shot too. Well, at least the one I found was. I can't imagine the other side being any different.
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My new heater showed up today from Marty. I got to installing the heater soon after it came.

I started by painting the mounting tab that screws onto the heater itself. While that dried, I cleaner the old plastic duct work for the recirculator. I just gave them a good scrubbing with some Brillo and dish soap. They look better, certainly not as dusty. Then, I fastened the ducts together, and to the heater, and put the "funnel" on the other end that goes through the firewall. When the bracket was dried, I screwed it onto the heater. The "stand" that mounts on the engine surround stayed in place the whole while.

Next, I got the heater into the engine compartment, I positioned the duct over the part still inside the body, and fastened it's screw. Then, I slid the "funnel" into place, and put those screws in. Lastly, I installed the rubber feet into the bracket and tightens it all together. It feels like its in good...

I didn't hook up the electrical lines yet, nor the fuel lines. Though everything is marked so I don't expect any big issues. I am nervous about the thermostat, namely because it really was in a very difficult place to get to and pretty much everyone I've spoken to says they rarely fail. Still, just knowing that it is the one element here not to be "checked on" makes me anxious.

I started by painting the mounting tab that screws onto the heater itself. While that dried, I cleaner the old plastic duct work for the recirculator. I just gave them a good scrubbing with some Brillo and dish soap. They look better, certainly not as dusty. Then, I fastened the ducts together, and to the heater, and put the "funnel" on the other end that goes through the firewall. When the bracket was dried, I screwed it onto the heater. The "stand" that mounts on the engine surround stayed in place the whole while.


Next, I got the heater into the engine compartment, I positioned the duct over the part still inside the body, and fastened it's screw. Then, I slid the "funnel" into place, and put those screws in. Lastly, I installed the rubber feet into the bracket and tightens it all together. It feels like its in good...

I didn't hook up the electrical lines yet, nor the fuel lines. Though everything is marked so I don't expect any big issues. I am nervous about the thermostat, namely because it really was in a very difficult place to get to and pretty much everyone I've spoken to says they rarely fail. Still, just knowing that it is the one element here not to be "checked on" makes me anxious.
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very sweet mike.
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Re: Home away from Home, on wheels.
That's hot...... Literally
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Nice job Mike. Looks like it was an easy repair.
Keep working at it and it gets done!!
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Re: Home away from Home, on wheels.
Heat is neet, especially when blowing on your feet. 

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Re: Home away from Home, on wheels.
Where does that ductwork go ? Under the rear passenger seat ?
I'm not an air cooled snob , I like them all !
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Tom, the recirculator intake is located in the cubbies behind the closet. The hot air output is under the rear bench
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I have to take a better look at it next time. Looks like a great option.
I'm not an air cooled snob , I like them all !
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Yup, needs heat exchangers.
#SawThatOneComing
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#SawThatOneComing
Bummer, I've been working a $#!+ ton of overtime to bank some cash and pay down the last $4g on the Fusion faster... Oh well, not this month.