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1963 Turkis Kombi

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I'm going to put everything here now. Previous thread:

http://www.dasvolks.com/phpBB3/viewtopi ... a&start=70

Today, we discovered why the battery moved around so much during shipping (aside from the fact that it wasn't secured):

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http://i782.photobucket.com/albums/yy10 ... 1274669040

The loose battery not only smashed the sheet metal / bondo, but also dented the taillight bucket, knocked the bulb out of the bucket, and disconnected the ground:

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Fixing the wires and reseating the bulb:

http://i782.photobucket.com/albums/yy10 ... 1274669254

There was absolutely no way to securely place the battery where it normally goes without potentially causing more damage, so we moved it temporarily to the other side. Here's Bill working on replacing the cable to the starter:

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http://i782.photobucket.com/albums/yy10 ... 1274669439

Temporary set up (new fuel filter will be installed soon and the extra one eliminated):

http://i782.photobucket.com/albums/yy10 ... 1274669479

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I removed the seats and cleaned everything:

http://i782.photobucket.com/albums/yy10 ... 1274669627
http://i782.photobucket.com/albums/yy10 ... 1274669721

Original travel stickers:

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rubber mat cleaned and shabby Bay seats covered up for now:

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We also got the two driver's side pop-out windows to open, and made a quick fix to the side view mirror. Thanks to Bill for all the assistance so far!

More to come...
john aka dubstar
1963 Type 2 Kombi
1977 Type 1 FI

wanted: any year / condition split window middle and rear seats for the '63

"oh ya! the bus has tires that hold air now and all drums are freeded"
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Re: 1963 Turkis Kombi

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That battery tray is harsh. Did the seller mention it?

Aside from that troublesome corner, the rest of the bus looks great! I'm really digging those travel stickers, too.

For sticky pop out's you can buy something called Monkey Butt, or use talc powder (baby powder) for that baby fresh smell and freely opening windows.
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Before I order some parts from WW or the Samba, I thought I would ask here. Photos / links included for visual reference:

two interior front door handles:
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driver's side sliding window lock:
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driver's side vent window latch:
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side mirror and arm (passenger arm):
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engine lid stay:
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engine lid key cover:
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rear luggage area rubber mat:
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front license plate clamps:
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thanks
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1963 Type 2 Kombi
1977 Type 1 FI

wanted: any year / condition split window middle and rear seats for the '63

"oh ya! the bus has tires that hold air now and all drums are freeded"
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"That battery tray is harsh. Did the seller mention it?"

no mention of it...a lot of work was obviously done to the bus, so this is puzzling...I can only imagine it seemed sorta-kinda OK and the unsecured battery finished off the job sooner than anticipated :lol: :roll:

definitely should have been mentioned, however; at the very least, I could have a new tray here already

I used the baby powder (read about it on the samba last week)

updates as they develop!
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1963 Type 2 Kombi
1977 Type 1 FI

wanted: any year / condition split window middle and rear seats for the '63

"oh ya! the bus has tires that hold air now and all drums are freeded"
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Hey John great looking bus, much better shape then when I got mine. Sorry to read about the battery damange. Also I may have the front plate holder, I'll check my stash and let you know.
Having a good time with my VW!!
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John I have the locks and mirror and arm. FYI The vent window needs to be removed from the frame to replace that latch. Some special tools and skills are needed.
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Looks great John. The rate you're going on this it will on the road in no time flat! (whatever that means!!)
Keep working at it and it gets done!!
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very clean bus, I like it. congratulations, I'm glad it finally made it here
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John.

please get some hose clamps on those fuel lines.
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thanks for the replies...if anyone wants to PM a price on whatever you have, please feel free

also looking to possibly trade the currently installed black dash grab handle for a light color one:

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raj, thanks for the advice...the bus is nor driving around yet and clamps and new fuel filter are on the list
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1963 Type 2 Kombi
1977 Type 1 FI

wanted: any year / condition split window middle and rear seats for the '63

"oh ya! the bus has tires that hold air now and all drums are freeded"
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dubstar wrote:
raj, thanks for the advice...the bus is nor driving around yet and clamps and new fuel filter are on the list

good man. Bad things happen to good vws that are clampless, and I dont want you to be next on the list.
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dubstar wrote:also looking to possibly trade the currently installed black dash grab handle for a light color one:
Done
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0 for 2 at DMV...this time, the clerk told me that the Washington State title needs to be notarized...you think the seller would have known this? I've been checking around, and all I can find are references to WITHIN state notary requirements for WA...I sent the title department an email requesting clarification...anyone know?

since I can't drive it, I've been looking around for parts...based on the original VW specs., I'm looking for silver beige interior door handles and cargo door handles to replace the black ones (front doors are broken, anyway)

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/inf ... stype2.php
http://wolfsburgwest.com/colors/62l380.htm

so as I mentioned above, if anyone has anything they want to sell before I place a WW order, I'd appreciate it

I'm also going to need to order an engine compartment seal, a rear hatch seal (top thin one), and some door seals...

also looking for two-point seat belts temporarily for the front and later for the rear bench:

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thanks!
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1963 Type 2 Kombi
1977 Type 1 FI

wanted: any year / condition split window middle and rear seats for the '63

"oh ya! the bus has tires that hold air now and all drums are freeded"
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I have an interior cargo door handle I'm willing to donate. It came out of a '62 Turkis standard.
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thanks, william...PM me a price

as for the title issue...if we get someone to notarize it here, it should not be a problem, correct?

very annoyed at this point...

I see there are other options in a worst-case-scenario:

http://www.nydmv.state.ny.us/proove.htm
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"oh ya! the bus has tires that hold air now and all drums are freeded"
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this indicates WA is a non-notary state???

http://dpsweb.dps.louisiana.gov/omv1.ns ... enDocument

I won't be driving this thing until tuesday at the earliest :(

if I'm lucky
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1963 Type 2 Kombi
1977 Type 1 FI

wanted: any year / condition split window middle and rear seats for the '63

"oh ya! the bus has tires that hold air now and all drums are freeded"
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john aka dubstar
1963 Type 2 Kombi
1977 Type 1 FI

wanted: any year / condition split window middle and rear seats for the '63

"oh ya! the bus has tires that hold air now and all drums are freeded"
mannys66

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here you go bro, call Kelly tomorrow and tell that you're a friend of mine
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well, looks like I should have been issued plates yesterday :x

Subject RE: do out-of-state title transfers need to be notarized?
From View message header detail DOL INT Titles <TITLES@DOL.WA.GOV>

From: dubstar@optonline.net [mailto:dubstar@optonline.net]
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Subject: do out-of-state title transfers need to be notarized?

Hello:

I am a New York State resident. I am buying a vehicle from a Washington State resident. Does the title need to be notarized to be transferred to my name?

Thank you.



Hi,

The title doesn’t need to be notarized, it just needs to be sign off by the buyer.

Thank you,

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1963 Type 2 Kombi
1977 Type 1 FI

wanted: any year / condition split window middle and rear seats for the '63

"oh ya! the bus has tires that hold air now and all drums are freeded"
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Yes!! Today looks like your lucky day!!
Keep working at it and it gets done!!
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It would be nice if NYS listed this information anywhere other than the book they keep behind the counter, but the title must be notarized to transfer (NYS requirement, not WA)...so nothing will happen until Tuesday

latest addition tonight:

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1977 Type 1 FI

wanted: any year / condition split window middle and rear seats for the '63

"oh ya! the bus has tires that hold air now and all drums are freeded"
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I think this might be my bus...the person who posted it owned my bus prior to the person I bought it from...eventually I'll get around to asking:

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1977 Type 1 FI

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OK, aside from Manny's friend, who I will call later, I need some opinions and assistance here.

First time, the clerk said the title had to be notarized. He made it seem as though this was a WA state requirement. After doing additional research, I discovered that WA has no such requirement (see above).

On Friday, I was told that the title must be notarized and that this is a NY requirement. The top-secret-behind-counter book was consulted and the clerk wrote "title needs to notarized". No mention was made of the fact that the WA based seller had already signed it. The clerk made it seem like it was no big deal, just get it notarized and come back.

Obviously I should have asked more questions and asked to see the page she consulted in the book (she did speak with a supervisor). A friend of mine referred me to a notary, who he said would be able to take care of this. I am now being told that this notary will not notarize the title without the seller present. Which, of course, makes sense on one level (notary), but is complete and utter nonsense on another (NY DMV).

How the hell are you supposed to buy an out-of-state car with these types of requirements? Am I supposed to fly the seller out here? I suspect the people I am dealing with a GC DMV are not interpreting the book correctly, but that does not help me now.

I'm going to start the process of preparing the necessary paperwork to have the car registered proof of ownership. In the meantime, I would appreciate if anyone with DMV knowledge could find any type of reference to notarized titles from WA on DMV's site...my dad has a direct number to DMV that someone answers in person, so I'll try that on Tuesday, as well

thanks

Proof of Ownership Supplied by the Buyer

Before you purchase a vehicle, boat, or snowmobile that is non-titled, make sure that you will receive the acceptable proofs of ownership. If you cannot get any of these proofs, you must:

Contact the previous owner that sold the vehicle, boat or snowmobile to you. Get a bill of sale, and a registration receipt or form MV-353 transferred to you.

OR

Write to the owner and request that the owner transfer the acceptable proof of ownership to you and mail the proof to you. Use certified mail to request a return receipt.

If you do not receive proof of ownership, and the US Postal Service returns your certified letter, bring all of these items to a DMV office:

* The returned certified letter in its envelope, not opened.
* A pencil tracing, a photo or a police statement that shows the vehicle identification number.
* A notarized affidavit that explains how you got the vehicle and describes how you tried to get the acceptable proof of ownership.
* Other documents that are evidence of ownership. For example, any bills of sale or registration documents of previous owners, or your cancelled check for payment, is evidence of ownership.
* A completed form MV-51B (Statement of Ownership). Note: If you have had the vehicle, the boat or the snowmobile for less than one year and it was never registered by the previous owner, the previous owner must complete form MV-51B.

Important Note: If your proof of ownership for a vehicle, boat, or snowmobile that is non-titled is not a NYS transferable registration transferred to you by the previous owner, the local DMV office will issue a non-transferable registration. You can use the vehicle, boat or snowmobile with a non-transferable registration, but you cannot transfer your ownership to another person.

After your non-transferable registration is issued, the DMV Title Services Bureau examines your proofs. The Title Services Bureau decides if the DMV can issue a transferable registration. The Title Services Bureau will mail to you a transferable registration or a letter that explains why the DMV cannot issue a transferable registration.
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1963 Type 2 Kombi
1977 Type 1 FI

wanted: any year / condition split window middle and rear seats for the '63

"oh ya! the bus has tires that hold air now and all drums are freeded"
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Is anyone on this site a notary public?
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"oh ya! the bus has tires that hold air now and all drums are freeded"
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official NYS DMV...no mention of notarization requirement:

How to Register an Out-of-State Vehicle
How do I register a vehicle in NYS that has a registration document or a title certificate from another state?

Carefully read the information about how to register a vehicle. You must follow the same registration requirements for an out-of-state vehicle.

If you do not have an out-of-state title that displays your name:

* If the vehicle was purchased from a private owner, provide a bill of sale from the previous owner, and the title certificate or transferable registration that was transferred from the previous owner to you. Get more information about proof of ownership.

If you purchase or receive the vehicle as a gift from another person

If you buy a vehicle, a boat, an ATV, or a snowmobile from another person who is not a DMV-licensed automobile dealer or receive it as a gift, make sure that you receive acceptable proof of ownership.

Bill of Sale: Proof of ownership normally includes a bill of sale. The DMV does not provide a form for a bill of sale. The seller and the buyer complete the bill of sale. If the vehicle is transferred as a gift, indicate this on the bill of sale and indicate that the purchase price is $0. You must also indicate the vehicle is a gift on form DTF-802 (Statement of Transaction {Sales Tax Form}). An acceptable bill of sale includes all of this information:

* the year and make of the vehicle, boat or ATV,
* the vehicle identification number (VIN) or the hull identification number (HIN),
* the date of the sale,
* the purchase price of the vehicle or the boat, and
* the names and signatures of the buyer and the seller.

The buyer and seller can make photocopies of the bill of sale to keep in their records. The new owner must give the original bill of sale to the DMV with the other acceptable proofs of ownership required. A bill of sale is not an acceptable proof of ownership without other proofs.

Cars, Trucks and Motorcycles - model year 1972 or older

The acceptable proof of ownership is a NYS transferable registration or the acceptable proof of ownership for that vehicle issued by another state.

NYS does not issue title certificates for 1972 and older vehicles. NYS DMV normally issues a transferable registration for proof of ownership for a 1972 or older motor vehicle. The owner can use the transferable registration to transfer ownership to another person. If the proof of ownership is a NYS registration document, make sure the registration document is marked "transferable" on the front. The person whose name appears on the proof of ownership must sign the transfer section of the proof of ownership.

Different states issue different documents for ownership and transfer of older vehicles. To make sure that an out-of-state document is the acceptable proof of ownership, contact the DMV in the state that issued the document.
john aka dubstar
1963 Type 2 Kombi
1977 Type 1 FI

wanted: any year / condition split window middle and rear seats for the '63

"oh ya! the bus has tires that hold air now and all drums are freeded"
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