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AoT
Posts: 1029 Joined: Fri Oct 17, 2008 8:09 pm
First Name: Audrey
Vehicle Year: 1974
Model: Beetle
Location: Ready for a road trip....
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by AoT » Tue Apr 21, 2009 10:00 pm
Glenn wrote:
MICE ... I hate mice.
(Maybe Manny's friend Pepe camped out here in his younger days.)
Wow, a picture is worth a thousand words!! Glad you think this one has some charm!!
The gauntlet has been thrown down and the challenge has begun. Looking forward to working with the talented brains behind the madness to bring this engine back to life. Time to saddle up and get this wagon train rolling!! Thanks to all for your support, past, present and future!
Keep working at it and it gets done!!
Glenn
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First Name: Glenn
Vehicle Year: 1974
Model: Beetle
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by Glenn » Wed Apr 22, 2009 5:39 am
glenn a wrote: I have a dog house I got from Ken along with tins. I'll bring them incase Jim can't make it .
Bring it since i doubt Jim cam make the meeting. He usually has Cub Scouts on Wednesdays.
I'm gonna try to bring the alternator over to GT. Tony is going to have it checked.
Tom
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by Tom » Wed Apr 22, 2009 9:58 am
The starter looks new...
I'm not an air cooled snob , I like them all !
Brown wrote: Tom is right!
ObnoxiousBlue
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First Name: Mike
Vehicle Year: 1964
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by ObnoxiousBlue » Wed Apr 22, 2009 10:31 am
Tom thats one of Glenns. Its attatched to a sawed off bellhousing so that he can ground start motors. It bolts on and off and he can spin the motors up without having them in a car.
AoT
Posts: 1029 Joined: Fri Oct 17, 2008 8:09 pm
First Name: Audrey
Vehicle Year: 1974
Model: Beetle
Location: Ready for a road trip....
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by AoT » Wed Apr 22, 2009 12:03 pm
glenn a wrote: I have a dog house I got from Ken along with tins. I'll bring them incase Jim can't make it .
What goes around, comes around. I remember when you gave me this list. Now it's back on mine!
The beauty of recycling VW parts!
Keep working at it and it gets done!!
Glenn
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by Glenn » Wed Apr 22, 2009 8:50 pm
I got a fan shroud from GA from Ken and a crank pulley from Raj.
If anyone has a set of good solid upper cylinder tins let me know. if not we can reuse the old ones.
Glenn A
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by Glenn A » Wed Apr 22, 2009 9:03 pm
Glenn wrote: I got a fan shroud from GA from Ken and a crank pulley from Raj.
If anyone has a set of good solid upper cylinder tins let me know. if not we can reuse the old ones.
Will tins from a 40hp work ? I have tins on a motor that came out of a 64 .
Glenn
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by Glenn » Wed Apr 22, 2009 9:09 pm
No... they have to be 1600DP tins. The old ones will do, they are just a bit flimsy.
volksbugusa
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by volksbugusa » Thu Apr 23, 2009 3:51 am
looking really good....if you apply pur 15 to the tins the product will help try at least two coats....
....Glenn before I install my motor I would love to borrow your starter set up to check things out....
uBerStehle
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by uBerStehle » Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:22 am
Glenn wrote: MICE ... I hate mice.
Good thing you guys decided to remove the fan housing. With that much crap in there if the engine fired up I'm sure it would have self-destructed in short order!
Remember, wherever you are - YOU ARE ALWAYS HERE!
ROB
Glenn
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by Glenn » Thu Apr 23, 2009 12:15 pm
So I did a valve adjustment and checked compression.
50 - 100 - 50 - 30
Not good... I sprayed some PB Blaster in the cylinders and cranked it for 30 seconds. I'll repeat after a few hours and recheck.
I hope it "pumps up", or it's Plan D.
AoT
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First Name: Audrey
Vehicle Year: 1974
Model: Beetle
Location: Ready for a road trip....
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by AoT » Thu Apr 23, 2009 12:46 pm
Glenn wrote: So I did a valve adjustment and checked compression.
50 - 100 - 50 - 30
Not good... I sprayed some PB Blaster in the cylinders and cranked it for 30 seconds. I'll repeat after a few hours and recheck.
I hope it "pumps up", or it's Plan D.
I'm "wondering" if this is ever going to be a 'wonder' or a worry!
Should I put it on the organ donor list?
Keep working at it and it gets done!!
Raj
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by Raj » Thu Apr 23, 2009 1:45 pm
Glenn wrote: So I did a valve adjustment and checked compression.
50 - 100 - 50 - 30
Not good... I sprayed some PB Blaster in the cylinders and cranked it for 30 seconds. I'll repeat after a few hours and recheck.
I hope it "pumps up", or it's Plan D.
at this point why dont we just replace the rings at a minimum, or if we have to P and C's, maybe a valve job while the heads are off.
Glenn wrote: I have to say, this "gruppe" is so much more than just a car club.
MrBreeze wrote:
This is the DVG board. The threads flow as they flow.
Deal with it.
Glenn
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by Glenn » Thu Apr 23, 2009 1:58 pm
Taking this engine apart is a can of worms.
All the exhaust studs look badly rusted and the odds are most of them will break. The head studs are also rusted and might be a problem. And who's to say the valves are not the problem. So to do pistons, cylinders and heads you're looking at $500 in parts.
GA still has his engine, but i'm thinking of getting this one started and checking compression when its warm.
Glenn
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by Glenn » Thu Apr 23, 2009 5:10 pm
It runs....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMtiPtQ6ZJw
But not very good. After letting it get hot, i remove the plugs and checked compression again. Not much better.
75 - 125 - 70 - 40
Time for Plan D.
Big_kid
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by Big_kid » Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:04 pm
Ouch.
Not valves? Try some seafoam?
ObnoxiousBlue
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by ObnoxiousBlue » Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:42 pm
Wow. Sorry AoT, its nice to see someone has the same shit luck as me! LOL
Now, what IS plan D?
Glenn
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by Glenn » Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:38 pm
Big_kid wrote: Ouch.
Not valves? Try some seafoam?
I already tried some PB Blaster and cranked it for 30 seconds. Then let it site for a few hours and applied more. I then checked the compression and it was barely better. Tony suggested running it until it gets hot but he doubts it would help... it did not.
Short of a top end rebuild, this not not going to move a car.
Plan D is a engine that Glenn A has.
AoT
Posts: 1029 Joined: Fri Oct 17, 2008 8:09 pm
First Name: Audrey
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by AoT » Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:52 pm
ObnoxiousBlue wrote: Wow. Sorry AoT, its nice to see someone has the same shit luck as me! LOL
Now, what IS plan D?
this is what I posted under '74 Gigggles in (Tech Discusions) a few weeks back:
Ok. You have been warned that any projects that I participate in have a tendency to have lots of bumps in the road so just be prepared to giggle as we move forward. I won't be offended as you roll over in laughter when you see what greets me on a good day!
And believe me when I read your post I got a good laugh!!
Move over Mike, make room for me!!
Keep working at it and it gets done!!
AoT
Posts: 1029 Joined: Fri Oct 17, 2008 8:09 pm
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by AoT » Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:00 pm
Glenn wrote:
Short of a top end rebuild, this not not going to move a car.
Plan D is a engine that Glenn A has.
Glad we have a plan D! How far along in the alphabet is this going to take?
"'A" didn't work and it better not be "T'"!!
I am on a giggle high!!
Better laughing than the alternative.
Keep working at it and it gets done!!
Glenn
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by Glenn » Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:20 pm
All in a days work.
The good new is the alternator is good, I have most of the tin, the carb on that engine is OK and so is the fuel pump.
Glenn A
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by Glenn A » Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:40 pm
Say hello to plan "D"
Glenn
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by Glenn » Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:48 pm
Looks like a plan.
AoT
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by AoT » Thu Apr 23, 2009 10:13 pm
glenn a wrote: Say hello to plan "D"
I'm speechless! that's one bad a$$ looking engine! SWEET
Keep working at it and it gets done!!
ObnoxiousBlue
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by ObnoxiousBlue » Thu Apr 23, 2009 10:28 pm
Well, true to luck, plan D is no prettier than A, B, or C! LOL