Are you kidding ? Glenn Ring wrote the book of the adverse effect of powder coating rims and loose lug botls.Glenn A wrote:Have you done any reading about powder coat and loose lug nuts? I've read that powder coat needs to be removed where the lug studs seat. The coating cracks under the seating surface and causes the lugs to become loose.
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Re: 74 Beetle
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Fixed it for you!!mannys66 wrote:Are you kidding ? Glenn Ring wrote the book of the adverse effect of powder painting rims and loose lug botls.Glenn A wrote:Have you done any reading about powder coat and loose lug nuts? I've read that powder coat needs to be removed where the lug studs seat. The coating cracks under the seating surface and causes the lugs to become loose.
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I've never had a problem in the past.
Glenn
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"You may not get what you pay for, but you always pay for what you get"
When you mess with the bull, you get the horns.
Re: 74 Beetle
Brown wrote:Fixed it for you!!mannys66 wrote:Are you kidding ? Glenn Ring wrote the book of the adverse effect of powder painting rims and loose lug botls.Glenn A wrote:Have you done any reading about powder coat and loose lug nuts? I've read that powder coat needs to be removed where the lug studs seat. The coating cracks under the seating surface and causes the lugs to become loose.
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Glenn wrote:I have to say, this "gruppe" is so much more than just a car club.
MrBreeze wrote: This is the DVG board. The threads flow as they flow.
Deal with it.
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I'll bet you have had plenty of problems in the past!!!Glenn wrote:I've never had a problem in the past.


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yea , glenn a . i read that also on a samba thread... strange...
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What.. that I had plenty of problems int he past?franksmarket wrote:yea , glenn a . i read that also on a samba thread... strange...

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"You may not get what you pay for, but you always pay for what you get"
When you mess with the bull, you get the horns.
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"You may not get what you pay for, but you always pay for what you get"
When you mess with the bull, you get the horns.
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Kevin, call over to Gene at Volksworld, he has literally DOZENS of engines sitting on shelves lining his garage. I had spoken to him a few months back with prospect on one, of a few he said were good, for my 71. That obviously never materialized.
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I had my wheels powdercoated 2 years ago on BUSBQ BUS and i had a wheel come loose.. the bolts were all tight then i retourqed them a month later .. two months after that i left a bus bbq and bus drove like it had a square tire in the back.. sounded like nuts and bolts.. got out could see nothing felt so wierd. so i figured i would nurse it home until i drove a mile further and saw my hubcap fly off from the lug bolts rolling around in the hubcap.. destroyed the steel wheel. put the spare on and robbed 1 bolt from ever other wheel to get me home.. when i got the new used wheel i had it powdercoated again but i had the guy mask it off.. the other three wheels i took a wire wheel and got rid of the powdercoat around the lug seats.. has been fine since.. I saw the warnings on the samba too before i had the wheels powder coated and laughed. but it happened to me.. Learn from my mistake.. 

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I'll most likely scuff the surface where the lug bolts match up. A scotch bright pad is all that's needed.
Glenn
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"You may not get what you pay for, but you always pay for what you get"
When you mess with the bull, you get the horns.
74 Beetle Specs | 74 Beetle Restoration | 2180cc Engine
"You may not get what you pay for, but you always pay for what you get"
When you mess with the bull, you get the horns.
Re: 74 Beetle
It's not about the lug gripping or not causing it to loosen. It is that the powder coat cracks under the stress. Once the coating is gone the lug is now loose.Glenn wrote: A scotch bright pad is all that's needed.
Or maybe it only happens in the winter, in which case you'll be fine.
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Either way the scotch bright will fix it.Glenn A wrote:It's not about the lug gripping or not causing it to loosen. It is that the powder coat cracks under the stress. Once the coating is gone the lug is now loose.Glenn wrote: A scotch bright pad is all that's needed.
Glenn
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"You may not get what you pay for, but you always pay for what you get"
When you mess with the bull, you get the horns.
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"You may not get what you pay for, but you always pay for what you get"
When you mess with the bull, you get the horns.
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I agree with you Glenn A... Mine Happened in the summer.. I gave my advice.. I say no more.. The powder coater laughed at me too when i told him to mask it the first time.. he said it wouldnt be a problem.. I thought it was rediculous too at one point. but i learned..
"I will be Setting aside my trusty can of starter fluid"ObnoxiousBlue wrote: quickly diagnosed as a break in the wire, and in no more than a twiddle of his finger Peabody and I took it back to the pavement
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Spoke to the powder painter and he'll mask off the seating surface.
Easy as pie.
Easy as pie.
Glenn
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"You may not get what you pay for, but you always pay for what you get"
When you mess with the bull, you get the horns.
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When you mess with the bull, you get the horns.
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Re: 74 Beetle
New tire and fresh painted rims.




It started right up after sitting since December.




It started right up after sitting since December.
Glenn
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"You may not get what you pay for, but you always pay for what you get"
When you mess with the bull, you get the horns.
74 Beetle Specs | 74 Beetle Restoration | 2180cc Engine
"You may not get what you pay for, but you always pay for what you get"
When you mess with the bull, you get the horns.
Re: 74 Beetle
Nice GR.
What a PITA that was
What a PITA that was
Glenn wrote:I have to say, this "gruppe" is so much more than just a car club.
MrBreeze wrote: This is the DVG board. The threads flow as they flow.
Deal with it.
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Tell me....
The first powder painted kept "fixing" the problems and they wound up with 5 layers of paint. It was a bitch to get off but John @ Action Power Painting got the job done.
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The first powder painted kept "fixing" the problems and they wound up with 5 layers of paint. It was a bitch to get off but John @ Action Power Painting got the job done.
Action Powder Painting
105 Verdi Street
Farmingdale, NY 11735-6339
(631) 845-1949
Ask for John
Glenn
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"You may not get what you pay for, but you always pay for what you get"
When you mess with the bull, you get the horns.
74 Beetle Specs | 74 Beetle Restoration | 2180cc Engine
"You may not get what you pay for, but you always pay for what you get"
When you mess with the bull, you get the horns.
Re: 74 Beetle
Looks real nice. Are you happy with the tire choice?
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I like the size, but only put 4 miles on so far. I have to give them a few hundred miles to break in and then I hope they don't spin as easily as my old ones.
My old tires are 195/60-15 all around and the fronts would rub when I hit dips in the road at highway speeds. The new tores are 195/55-15 and are a bit shorter. The rears are 205/60-15 and are a little wider and taller.
My old tires are 195/60-15 all around and the fronts would rub when I hit dips in the road at highway speeds. The new tores are 195/55-15 and are a bit shorter. The rears are 205/60-15 and are a little wider and taller.
Glenn
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"You may not get what you pay for, but you always pay for what you get"
When you mess with the bull, you get the horns.
74 Beetle Specs | 74 Beetle Restoration | 2180cc Engine
"You may not get what you pay for, but you always pay for what you get"
When you mess with the bull, you get the horns.
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Looks Great!
"I will be Setting aside my trusty can of starter fluid"ObnoxiousBlue wrote: quickly diagnosed as a break in the wire, and in no more than a twiddle of his finger Peabody and I took it back to the pavement