68 Bug
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Re: 68 Bug
I thought 68s had drums. I guess I have something to learn.
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Re: 68 Bug
He already converted to disc.Glenn A wrote:I thought 68s had drums. I guess I have something to learn.
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Re: 68 Bug
Come on man, you got to be kidding me!!Glenn A wrote:I thought 68s had drums. I guess I have something to learn.

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Re: 68 Bug
nice! Can't wait to see the back down too.
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Re: 68 Bug
Do i need to use the spring plate adjusting tool or can i do it without it?
Thanks
Thanks
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Re: 68 Bug
you can do it without, just be carefull when it disengagues and it kicks down.
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Re: 68 Bug
Sounds like i might need to fire up the carnage thread!!!mannys66 wrote:you can do it without, just be carefull when it disengagues and it kicks down.


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Re: 68 Bug
put the car on stands and a jack under the spring plate. After unbolting it lower it down safely while prying it past the stop. Make sure it is a touch off the stop when you start prying it, This way you know for sure the jack is supporting it. Before pulling the plate all the way off measure it with and angle finder. Do both sides the same exact way. I will assume you know the inner splines and outer splines are different.
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Re: 68 Bug
Yes i know. I am using the talbe Glenn RIng produced to lower it about 2 inches. + 10 on the inner and - 10 on the outer splinesGlenn A wrote:put the car on stands and a jack under the spring plate. After unbolting it lower it down safely while prying it past the stop. Make sure it is a touch off the stop when you start prying it, This way you know for sure the jack is supporting it. Before pulling the plate all the way off measure it with and angle finder. Do both sides the same exact way. I will assume you know the inner splines and outer splines are different.
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Re: 68 Bug
The bug has been idlling very pooring or more accurately not idling at all.
I pulled a PICT 34 German Carb out of my stock which looked like it had a tight throttle shaft and rebuilt it. I installed it today and set the timing statically and it after the bowl filled with gas it started right up and already idles way better than it did before. My Dwell/tach analyzer decided it had had enough so i could not time it or adjust the carb but i will pick one up tomorrow at Advanced Auto and work on it again tomorrow.
I also got a new in dash cd/stereo for Christmas that i would like to get installed along with my front speaker kick panels.
It was good to get back to the car after spending so much time getting the garage straightened out.
I pulled a PICT 34 German Carb out of my stock which looked like it had a tight throttle shaft and rebuilt it. I installed it today and set the timing statically and it after the bowl filled with gas it started right up and already idles way better than it did before. My Dwell/tach analyzer decided it had had enough so i could not time it or adjust the carb but i will pick one up tomorrow at Advanced Auto and work on it again tomorrow.
I also got a new in dash cd/stereo for Christmas that i would like to get installed along with my front speaker kick panels.
It was good to get back to the car after spending so much time getting the garage straightened out.
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Re: 68 Bug
Good to hear Ken. My baja is doing the same thing now... and since its the only one with heat, i'm going to do the same this week.
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Deal with it.
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Re: 68 Bug
Back out to the car today adjusting the valves, checking the points, timing and adjusting the carb.
Only three valves needed to be adjusted.
The dwell was set to 61 so i adjusted the points and now its 47.
The timing is proving to be a pain. I have a dual vacuum advance distributor so the timing is 7.5 ATDC but i can't get it close to that without the car wanting to stall. To get it to keep running the timing is probable set around 10 BTDC. with it idling around 900 rpm.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Only three valves needed to be adjusted.
The dwell was set to 61 so i adjusted the points and now its 47.
The timing is proving to be a pain. I have a dual vacuum advance distributor so the timing is 7.5 ATDC but i can't get it close to that without the car wanting to stall. To get it to keep running the timing is probable set around 10 BTDC. with it idling around 900 rpm.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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Re: 68 Bug
i wish i knew anything about that Ken 
u help me so much and surprise surprise i have nothing to offer :/

u help me so much and surprise surprise i have nothing to offer :/
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Re: 68 Bug
Are you using a timing light that's adjustable or the scale on the engine ? Vacuum hoses should be off when adjusting.Brown wrote:Back out to the car today adjusting the valves, checking the points, timing and adjusting the carb.
Only three valves needed to be adjusted.
The dwell was set to 61 so i adjusted the points and now its 47.
The timing is proving to be a pain. I have a dual vacuum advance distributor so the timing is 7.5 ATDC but i can't get it close to that without the car wanting to stall. To get it to keep running the timing is probable set around 10 BTDC. with it idling around 900 rpm.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
I'm not an air cooled snob , I like them all !
Brown wrote:Tom is right!
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Regular timing light and I don't think it made a difference if the vacuum line was on or off, i got the same result.Tom wrote:Are you using a timing light that's adjustable or the scale on the engine ? Vacuum hoses should be off when adjusting.
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Re: 68 Bug
If you are timing it at idle it won't make a difference. Maybe the scale if f'd up ? I have a light that adjusts, I could stop by next Saturday when I'm in Oceanside and we could see if it makes a difference.Brown wrote:Regular timing light and I don't think it made a difference if the vacuum line was on or off, i got the same result.Tom wrote:Are you using a timing light that's adjustable or the scale on the engine ? Vacuum hoses should be off when adjusting.
I'm not an air cooled snob , I like them all !
Brown wrote:Tom is right!
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Re: 68 Bug
Tom,Tom wrote:If you are timing it at idle it won't make a difference. Maybe the scale if f'd up ? I have a light that adjusts, I could stop by next Saturday when I'm in Oceanside and we could see if it makes a difference.Brown wrote:Regular timing light and I don't think it made a difference if the vacuum line was on or off, i got the same result.Tom wrote:Are you using a timing light that's adjustable or the scale on the engine ? Vacuum hoses should be off when adjusting.
Thanks, i'll keep you posted. I'm going to try a few things but i'l let you know!!!
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Re: 68 Bug
Just came across this on TheSamba regarding timing marks and the number of different pullys which are out there. I did not realize there were some many and that the meaning of the marks varied so much.
Might explain some of my difficulties in timing the car.
Have a read if you have some time.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewto ... g+problems
Might explain some of my difficulties in timing the car.
Have a read if you have some time.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewto ... g+problems
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Re: 68 Bug
ahhh... very true. I guess we all ASSumed you had the correct pully on the motor. You have a degreed pulley you can slap on to at least time or take that ' notch ' out of the equation? How about find TDC on the pulley you have to confirm its correct? I have a degreed pulley you can borrow if need be
Glenn wrote:I have to say, this "gruppe" is so much more than just a car club.
MrBreeze wrote: This is the DVG board. The threads flow as they flow.
Deal with it.
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Re: 68 Bug
Yea, i assumed i knew what i was doing too!!!Raj wrote:ahhh... very true. I guess we all ASSumed you had the correct pully on the motor. You have a degreed pulley you can slap on to at least time or take that ' notch ' out of the equation? How about find TDC on the pulley you have to confirm its correct? I have a degreed pulley you can borrow if need be

i think i have a degreed pully so that is my first thing to check.
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Re: 68 Bug
Took my distributor to the expert today to verify it was working properly. He was able to set the points for the proper dwell and then checked and verified that the mechanical and vacuum advance both worked. He was able to determine the capacitor was bad so when i got home I replaced the cap re installed it in the car and bingo i was able to time it right on mark. Then i ran it up to full advance and that was right on 30 degrees BTDC.
I was able to adjust the bypass and volume control screws to get it to idle nice around 900 RPM.
I still have hesitation when accelerate so tomorrow i'm going to check the accelerator pump on the carb to see that it's working right.
I was able to adjust the bypass and volume control screws to get it to idle nice around 900 RPM.
I still have hesitation when accelerate so tomorrow i'm going to check the accelerator pump on the carb to see that it's working right.
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Re: 68 Bug
Tell my wife I was right for a change.Brown wrote: He was able to determine the capacitor was bad so when i got home I replaced the cap re installed it in the car and bingo i was able to time it right on mark. Then i ran it up to full advance and that was right on 30 degrees BTDC.

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Re: 68 Bug
Uh huh .Tom wrote: Maybe the scale is f'd up ?
I'm not an air cooled snob , I like them all !
Brown wrote:Tom is right!
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Re: 68 Bug
Scale was spot on!!!Tom wrote:Uh huh .Tom wrote: Maybe the scale is f'd up ?
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